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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word. I can see that too. It was an ironic pairing. I wonder if they would have had a better response from an audience opening for the Kills.  The vaselines helped to cultivate a whole culture out of being hip but humble and cute but raunchy, cool without trying - a sub genre called twee. Hallways isn&#039;t anything like that so I guess it&#039;s not hard to understand how most of the people there would think hallways was vain and insincere and contrived.  Whatever maybe they are, I don&#039;t care I still dig their music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word. I can see that too. It was an ironic pairing. I wonder if they would have had a better response from an audience opening for the Kills.  The vaselines helped to cultivate a whole culture out of being hip but humble and cute but raunchy, cool without trying &#8211; a sub genre called twee. Hallways isn&#8217;t anything like that so I guess it&#8217;s not hard to understand how most of the people there would think hallways was vain and insincere and contrived.  Whatever maybe they are, I don&#8217;t care I still dig their music.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead C</title>
		<link>http://www.monsterfresh.com/2009/05/14/the-vaselines-seattle-live-neumos/comment-page-1/#comment-27830</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good.  You sounded drunk.  I honestly wasn&#039;t aware that they are attacked by writers constantly.  They just didn&#039;t draw me in.  The point that I was trying to make was that I found it ironic how unserious and thought out The Vaselines career has been yet, it&#039;s worked for them in some way.  I&#039;m not against Hallways sound but I have to restate my original point &quot;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;if anyone wants to work in a genre that is saturated with similar artists, the burden to stand out and make an impression is yours&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.  It sounds like it is going to be a bigger struggle for Hallways to continue playing their music in this environment than a benefit.  

My assumption was that they fit into an easy mold to benefit from here(not just fashion but all around).  If it is something that they are actually harpooned for and they still continue doing it because they believe in it, than I feel that they should continue.  Technical ability doesn&#039;t do much for me, finding your own twist on something and your own voice interests me much more.

Something else ironic, your comment on my David Berman interview.  Thanks.  I&#039;m sure that you&#039;ve noticed that everyone else attacked the shit out of that one.  It&#039;s going to keep happening, I&#039;m sure.  Especially, since I will burn a bridge without thinking.  I&#039;ll burn the city if it comes to it.  I don&#039;t agree with what I read so I write what I want.  I already know that people have opposing feelings in larger arenas, that&#039;s why I do it.  So it comes with the territory.  The same applies for music.  It pisses me off too sometimes but, overall, it shouldn&#039;t really matter if you&#039;re doing something from an honest place.  Even if that honest place is cynical or ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good.  You sounded drunk.  I honestly wasn&#8217;t aware that they are attacked by writers constantly.  They just didn&#8217;t draw me in.  The point that I was trying to make was that I found it ironic how unserious and thought out The Vaselines career has been yet, it&#8217;s worked for them in some way.  I&#8217;m not against Hallways sound but I have to restate my original point &#8220;<i><b>if anyone wants to work in a genre that is saturated with similar artists, the burden to stand out and make an impression is yours</b></i>&#8220;.  It sounds like it is going to be a bigger struggle for Hallways to continue playing their music in this environment than a benefit.  </p>
<p>My assumption was that they fit into an easy mold to benefit from here(not just fashion but all around).  If it is something that they are actually harpooned for and they still continue doing it because they believe in it, than I feel that they should continue.  Technical ability doesn&#8217;t do much for me, finding your own twist on something and your own voice interests me much more.</p>
<p>Something else ironic, your comment on my David Berman interview.  Thanks.  I&#8217;m sure that you&#8217;ve noticed that everyone else attacked the shit out of that one.  It&#8217;s going to keep happening, I&#8217;m sure.  Especially, since I will burn a bridge without thinking.  I&#8217;ll burn the city if it comes to it.  I don&#8217;t agree with what I read so I write what I want.  I already know that people have opposing feelings in larger arenas, that&#8217;s why I do it.  So it comes with the territory.  The same applies for music.  It pisses me off too sometimes but, overall, it shouldn&#8217;t really matter if you&#8217;re doing something from an honest place.  Even if that honest place is cynical or ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;m sorry for my assumptions in the first response I was drinking and a little fiesty and too bored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m sorry for my assumptions in the first response I was drinking and a little fiesty and too bored.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.monsterfresh.com/2009/05/14/the-vaselines-seattle-live-neumos/comment-page-1/#comment-27826</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that reply!  At least now I know you&#039;re a passionate writer.  I&#039;ll admit i&#039;m with the band and I just got fed up with every review pointing out only the way hallways dresses.  I&#039;m writing these on my iPhone so excuse my lack of regard for grammer. I don&#039;t care if people like hallways, but at lease let it be for more meaningfull reasons and maybe go into some detail why, like songwriting or sound or musicianship. As somebody looking to improve and get better I try to find something constructive in all criticism, so I find it frustrating when most criticism is so shallow and superficial. I totally respect your right to post your opinion and I assume you&#039;re appreciative of readers posting theirs, even if their with the band. As for love from Seattle, hallways seems to be the coolest band to hate so if that&#039;s what you mean by everyone else supporting us then I agree.  Hallways plays what they love and live it&#039;s not a fad, so if that fad is over and that&#039;s why people can&#039;t get over their appearances and look deeper then doesn&#039;t it prove the band is deeply into what they do only out of love?  I don&#039;t think hallways is trying to sound like anybody other than the five people who play in the band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that reply!  At least now I know you&#8217;re a passionate writer.  I&#8217;ll admit i&#8217;m with the band and I just got fed up with every review pointing out only the way hallways dresses.  I&#8217;m writing these on my iPhone so excuse my lack of regard for grammer. I don&#8217;t care if people like hallways, but at lease let it be for more meaningfull reasons and maybe go into some detail why, like songwriting or sound or musicianship. As somebody looking to improve and get better I try to find something constructive in all criticism, so I find it frustrating when most criticism is so shallow and superficial. I totally respect your right to post your opinion and I assume you&#8217;re appreciative of readers posting theirs, even if their with the band. As for love from Seattle, hallways seems to be the coolest band to hate so if that&#8217;s what you mean by everyone else supporting us then I agree.  Hallways plays what they love and live it&#8217;s not a fad, so if that fad is over and that&#8217;s why people can&#8217;t get over their appearances and look deeper then doesn&#8217;t it prove the band is deeply into what they do only out of love?  I don&#8217;t think hallways is trying to sound like anybody other than the five people who play in the band.</p>
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		<title>By: Josherelie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josherelie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, thank you for breaking down the banter for me.  I was trying desperately to understand what the fuck they were saying, but I was crammed against the merch booth and had someone with a very high pitched Fran Dresher like baby voice talking beside me the whole time.  Why do people go to shows to talk? And what&#039;s up with this tool freaking out on you for not liking his friends band?  The impressions you shared were pretty much what I heard from everyone around me and the people I ran into after the show.  I didn&#039;t think they were bad musicians, but they seemed humorless and unoriginal.  As for the Vaselines, they were awesome and I&#039;m thankful to have had the good fortune to see them.  I just wish Neumoes had dialed in the sound earlier and that people wouldn&#039;t go to shows who don&#039;t want to see the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, thank you for breaking down the banter for me.  I was trying desperately to understand what the fuck they were saying, but I was crammed against the merch booth and had someone with a very high pitched Fran Dresher like baby voice talking beside me the whole time.  Why do people go to shows to talk? And what&#8217;s up with this tool freaking out on you for not liking his friends band?  The impressions you shared were pretty much what I heard from everyone around me and the people I ran into after the show.  I didn&#8217;t think they were bad musicians, but they seemed humorless and unoriginal.  As for the Vaselines, they were awesome and I&#8217;m thankful to have had the good fortune to see them.  I just wish Neumoes had dialed in the sound earlier and that people wouldn&#8217;t go to shows who don&#8217;t want to see the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dead C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 07:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, Seattle music writing, in general, IS weak.  That&#039;s precisely why I write in a forum where I don&#039;t have to pander to sponsorship or love a band just because they are from here.  I agree with that point, but you guys were featured in Sound Magazine so, I don&#039;t think that reinforces your logic too well.  The Stranger writes about every fucking band on the hill and covers their friend&#039;s parties at this point.  KEXP loves the Decemberists... I don&#039;t.  Local reviewers always hype the local music.  If you can&#039;t deal with the fact that someone didn&#039;t enjoy your show, or your friends&#039; show, then you should get the fuck out of the game and do it now.

Your email address is located on the band&#039;s website, so you should avoid any accusations of bias and resist taking jabs at someone&#039;s writing ability, if you plan to construct your comments with that many typos.  I live here and would love to be able to honestly support the local music more.  If I can&#039;t do it honestly, though, then I won&#039;t.  I&#039;ve established my view and interests through all of my articles and those who have similar outlooks, feelings, and agree with my general views, know that they can trust my interpretations as I relay them.  If people like the Insane Clown Posse, then they should go to a site that is written by someone that loves them also.  You won&#039;t find that shit here.

I hope to find more things that peak my interest locally, but it&#039;s hard.  The rap music sounds like it&#039;s pressed in an &quot;underground rap&quot; template.  The last few years when I lived in Olympia, everyone had a fucking keyboard and was in some electro-hardcore band.  If you think your look or sound stands out, especially in this town, then I&#039;d have to disagree.  I haven&#039;t seen &quot;everything&quot;, but I&#039;ve seen that look and I&#039;ve heard that sound.  I am interested in finding &lt;b&gt;new&lt;/b&gt; things and, if anyone wants to work in a genre that is saturated with similar artists, the burden to stand out and make an impression is yours.  Hallways did not stand out for me.

Fine artists (painting, etc) move from this city all of the time, instead of making a career here and it&#039;s a shame.  Seattle is still a relatively young city in the grand scheme, and it constantly feels to me that people want it to grow less naturally than it should.  The condos and skyscraper plans are like a shot of growth hormone.  I&#039;d like to see more individual pride and individualistic art here.

This is my site and this is the artistic medium that I work with the most at this time.  You came here and attacked it based off of this one article.  I gave my opinion based off of what I saw and researched about the group.  I didn&#039;t have a ton of shit to say about it so I didn&#039;t say very much.  The conclusion section was more of a general outlook and observation than it was about your particular group.  I went through the respectful effort of looking up Hallways and looking more into them before writing this article.    I&#039;m sorry if it didn&#039;t pan out for me.  I&#039;m even going through the respectful effort to post this lengthy reply.  I&#039;m one guy that wasn&#039;t moved by one group.  You seem much more emotionally invested towards my comments than I was.  You seem to be projecting a bit much and sound wounded.  I doubt that you came here to read a Vaselines review.  It seems that you were looking for another clipping for your scrap book.  The rest of the city will embrace you, don&#039;t worry.  They always do.  Hallways played Neumos again and opened up for The Vaselines.  The other publications, which you broadly, yet openly, slandered are embracing you.  So, who gives a fuck.  I deal with people talking shit to me all day on here.  Sorry, it doesn&#039;t phase me.  I&#039;ve chosen to become a public figure by using the internet.  You and your pals (with one &quot;L&quot;) have chosen to get up on a stage and beg to be seen and judged.  You expect positive feedback, sometimes you won&#039;t get it.  I thought my feedback was positive.  I explained what turned me away.  I realized that the uniqueness of The Vaselines is what I enjoyed.  I do not enjoy your music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, Seattle music writing, in general, IS weak.  That&#8217;s precisely why I write in a forum where I don&#8217;t have to pander to sponsorship or love a band just because they are from here.  I agree with that point, but you guys were featured in Sound Magazine so, I don&#8217;t think that reinforces your logic too well.  The Stranger writes about every fucking band on the hill and covers their friend&#8217;s parties at this point.  KEXP loves the Decemberists&#8230; I don&#8217;t.  Local reviewers always hype the local music.  If you can&#8217;t deal with the fact that someone didn&#8217;t enjoy your show, or your friends&#8217; show, then you should get the fuck out of the game and do it now.</p>
<p>Your email address is located on the band&#8217;s website, so you should avoid any accusations of bias and resist taking jabs at someone&#8217;s writing ability, if you plan to construct your comments with that many typos.  I live here and would love to be able to honestly support the local music more.  If I can&#8217;t do it honestly, though, then I won&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve established my view and interests through all of my articles and those who have similar outlooks, feelings, and agree with my general views, know that they can trust my interpretations as I relay them.  If people like the Insane Clown Posse, then they should go to a site that is written by someone that loves them also.  You won&#8217;t find that shit here.</p>
<p>I hope to find more things that peak my interest locally, but it&#8217;s hard.  The rap music sounds like it&#8217;s pressed in an &#8220;underground rap&#8221; template.  The last few years when I lived in Olympia, everyone had a fucking keyboard and was in some electro-hardcore band.  If you think your look or sound stands out, especially in this town, then I&#8217;d have to disagree.  I haven&#8217;t seen &#8220;everything&#8221;, but I&#8217;ve seen that look and I&#8217;ve heard that sound.  I am interested in finding <b>new</b> things and, if anyone wants to work in a genre that is saturated with similar artists, the burden to stand out and make an impression is yours.  Hallways did not stand out for me.</p>
<p>Fine artists (painting, etc) move from this city all of the time, instead of making a career here and it&#8217;s a shame.  Seattle is still a relatively young city in the grand scheme, and it constantly feels to me that people want it to grow less naturally than it should.  The condos and skyscraper plans are like a shot of growth hormone.  I&#8217;d like to see more individual pride and individualistic art here.</p>
<p>This is my site and this is the artistic medium that I work with the most at this time.  You came here and attacked it based off of this one article.  I gave my opinion based off of what I saw and researched about the group.  I didn&#8217;t have a ton of shit to say about it so I didn&#8217;t say very much.  The conclusion section was more of a general outlook and observation than it was about your particular group.  I went through the respectful effort of looking up Hallways and looking more into them before writing this article.    I&#8217;m sorry if it didn&#8217;t pan out for me.  I&#8217;m even going through the respectful effort to post this lengthy reply.  I&#8217;m one guy that wasn&#8217;t moved by one group.  You seem much more emotionally invested towards my comments than I was.  You seem to be projecting a bit much and sound wounded.  I doubt that you came here to read a Vaselines review.  It seems that you were looking for another clipping for your scrap book.  The rest of the city will embrace you, don&#8217;t worry.  They always do.  Hallways played Neumos again and opened up for The Vaselines.  The other publications, which you broadly, yet openly, slandered are embracing you.  So, who gives a fuck.  I deal with people talking shit to me all day on here.  Sorry, it doesn&#8217;t phase me.  I&#8217;ve chosen to become a public figure by using the internet.  You and your pals (with one &#8220;L&#8221;) have chosen to get up on a stage and beg to be seen and judged.  You expect positive feedback, sometimes you won&#8217;t get it.  I thought my feedback was positive.  I explained what turned me away.  I realized that the uniqueness of The Vaselines is what I enjoyed.  I do not enjoy your music.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that glowing review of hallways!  I always knew Seattle music writing was focused too much on the reviewers overcompensation for the lack of importance and meaningfulness placed on their lives; thus leaving the reader with a bad and masterbatory at best diary entry style writing  from a repressed high school outcast forever trying to beat down the people he/she feels inferior to. You have no right mentioning anything about them other than that they were there and may have played but you wouldn&#039;t know for sure because you are oh so too cool for this town and have seen and done everything and everything else just isn&#039;t good enough.(unless your equally hack gonzo gone awry psudo journalism palls say otherwise. If only music writers actually cared about or understund the subject matter they were writing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that glowing review of hallways!  I always knew Seattle music writing was focused too much on the reviewers overcompensation for the lack of importance and meaningfulness placed on their lives; thus leaving the reader with a bad and masterbatory at best diary entry style writing  from a repressed high school outcast forever trying to beat down the people he/she feels inferior to. You have no right mentioning anything about them other than that they were there and may have played but you wouldn&#8217;t know for sure because you are oh so too cool for this town and have seen and done everything and everything else just isn&#8217;t good enough.(unless your equally hack gonzo gone awry psudo journalism palls say otherwise. If only music writers actually cared about or understund the subject matter they were writing about.</p>
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